tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post6539394090728398898..comments2024-03-18T13:46:42.411-05:00Comments on OSHA Training Blog - oshatraining.com: “Best Practices”? Or Safety Run Amuck.Curtis Chambers, MS-OSH, CSP - OSHA Training Serviceshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05723447307841469333noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-38524400869487785302013-04-10T09:31:21.240-05:002013-04-10T09:31:21.240-05:00Curtis,
That you for the interesting story. This...Curtis,<br /><br />That you for the interesting story. This case is relevant to construction as more general contractors go to a "ladders last" policy. They want employees in lifts when possible. Use of a ladder is by permit only. My concern, recently confirmed on SoCal job site, is that the GC won't coodinate with the structural engineer of record to determine how many lifts can be used in particular area. Five employees, with tools, don't add up to much weight in a room. Five employees on lifts, even the JLG 1230 (which says the weight over each wheel is nearly 900 pounds), can and has damaged the floor. Fortunately, it wasn't a post-tension floor. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-50180169396622112712012-10-03T13:51:35.665-05:002012-10-03T13:51:35.665-05:00A great example why thorough, research, feedback, ...A great example why thorough, research, feedback, testing, and investigations are so necessary after any injury or near miss incident. The problem could have been solved the first time. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-31187339999418807722012-10-03T08:47:13.289-05:002012-10-03T08:47:13.289-05:00Great story of management by incident(s). Next pro...Great story of management by incident(s). Next problem is a fire/haz mat incident from the lift while charging the batteries in the confined space (Office).Greg Paynenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-63479657907215580922012-10-01T14:54:51.430-05:002012-10-01T14:54:51.430-05:00Bureaucracy at it's best. Classic case of mana...Bureaucracy at it's best. Classic case of managment making decisions about something they have no real knowledge of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-41124837720578845912012-09-26T07:59:47.589-05:002012-09-26T07:59:47.589-05:00Yeah blame the employees, that always works.Yeah blame the employees, that always works.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-82339069619916387272012-09-20T10:33:36.052-05:002012-09-20T10:33:36.052-05:00The ladder safety training made sense, as long as ...The ladder safety training made sense, as long as it was done by someone who knew what they were talking about. That is not always the case. It should have stopped there. The rest was just plain silly. Two of the accidents could have been prevented by a policy that says: "All employees will watch where they're going." I'm sure all employees would immediately and forever obey that policy. A comp case for a stubbed toe and broken toenail? We're sure getting delicate these days. At least it would have been an easy return to work. Another policy could rear its ugly head: "Pick up your feet." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-7459343811611340122012-09-17T10:25:21.829-05:002012-09-17T10:25:21.829-05:00Sadly enough, if engineering controls were truly s...Sadly enough, if engineering controls were truly sought out, there are devices (such as JLG's Liftpod) that would be much more appropriate for such activities. However, I always enjoyed the "Administrative control" approach which involves creating a policy that bans falling from elevations. (THAT should fix it!!!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-24325679251578486512012-09-17T09:07:57.065-05:002012-09-17T09:07:57.065-05:00Nice story! At some point as you rightly said, the...Nice story! At some point as you rightly said, the best practice phrase isn't just the best thing to say when change procedures as a result of incident...Thanks for sharing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-6767694563189958522012-09-15T21:27:44.352-05:002012-09-15T21:27:44.352-05:00Proof again of Eric Severeid's Law: "(T)h...Proof again of Eric Severeid's Law: "(T)he primary cause of problems is... solutions."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-54661987820381954862012-09-14T11:40:02.641-05:002012-09-14T11:40:02.641-05:00Well, that response is just too funny! I always e...Well, that response is just too funny! I always enjoy the blogs (and the responses too). It is very disheartening to know that there are safety "professionals" out there that are doing this kind of thing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-51059636012972047892012-09-14T11:03:24.182-05:002012-09-14T11:03:24.182-05:00This is interesting. I attended a safety meeting f...This is interesting. I attended a safety meeting for a major oil company last week where the head honcho was communicating an accident they had. When he was summarizing the cause he said "with that said we are not avocating that we make new procedures or implement a new plan, instead why don't we just use (i.e.DO )the procedures we already have and are susposed to use.......DUH! At the end of the meeting I approched him him and told him how nice it was to hear what he had to say..no MORE procedures/plans; DO the stuff we already have. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-63950421287818400102012-09-14T07:27:46.217-05:002012-09-14T07:27:46.217-05:00I have got to say that that was one of the best ar...I have got to say that that was one of the best articles I have read lately. I love how the cure is sometimes worse then the disease. Did they ever fix that leaky pipe that started all of this? I question those who have 100% tie off. If it is good when used on the first couple of rungs on a ladder, why don't we just use it in case of a trip so we don't fall down? Mandate overhead lines to assist us whenever we walk so that we won't trip? Thanks for the blog - I enjoyed it very much. TerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-5289610167963577932012-09-13T16:04:27.497-05:002012-09-13T16:04:27.497-05:00Mr. Chambers. I always enjoy your posts. They are...Mr. Chambers. I always enjoy your posts. They are informative, humorous and to the point. Thanks for keeping me informed. I’ll try not to call our new safety procedures a ‘best practice’, but rather, a policy or the best practice that works for us.<br /><br />Thank you very much!<br /><br />Donna<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-69845966747463463802012-09-13T07:24:39.996-05:002012-09-13T07:24:39.996-05:00Curtis,
I really enjoy your newsletters and arti...Curtis,<br /><br /> I really enjoy your newsletters and articles. Thanks for starting my day with a laugh / cry. <br /><br />Al <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-88564849408494874992012-09-12T20:27:59.249-05:002012-09-12T20:27:59.249-05:00So this should end with the question. "How ma...So this should end with the question. "How many Best Practices does it take to change a light bulb?" LOL <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-32889074395798410332012-09-10T08:15:56.697-05:002012-09-10T08:15:56.697-05:00Excellent blog. One important thing it illustrates...Excellent blog. One important thing it illustrates is that one rarely, if ever, understands all of the variables that will be impacted when a new action is implemented. One answer might have been to implement the requirement to use a fall protection harness attached to a lanyard or safety line when the worker is above a certain height (5 feet? 8 feet? 12 feet?). An alternative would be that one must use a ladder of the proper height for the job at hand, that is, you may not climb above the third or fourth rung from the top. Clearly, there are a number of other possible approaches to be considered that would have been more workable than those that were implemented. LouisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-43082329784336340122012-09-09T15:41:19.474-05:002012-09-09T15:41:19.474-05:00Common sense is not common! I laughed and I cried,...Common sense is not common! I laughed and I cried, because the right hand certainly doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Nice piece. M.J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-14082989570737195672012-09-08T08:18:50.598-05:002012-09-08T08:18:50.598-05:00Awesome blog... and I have seen it happen over ...Awesome blog... and I have seen it happen over and over again... I'm still chuckling... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-60222367228604017912012-09-07T17:11:08.503-05:002012-09-07T17:11:08.503-05:00WOW! That's what I'm seeing more and more ...WOW! That's what I'm seeing more and more of "Best Practice" good attention however not thought through. One of my previous employers established a Best Practice for dust control when sweeping out their large hangers. The "Best Practice" stated to use a Hudson sprayer or a water source to dampen effected area prior to sweeping to control dust. When they added water they introduced to issues; first the area became very slippery and second the Base EPA wanted the dust now to be treated as solid hazardous waste $$$$.<br /> They ended up going back to dry sweeping with a Negative ventilation system (exhaust fans) and the employees wearing N95 mask. - RayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-57800178615295534702012-09-06T14:59:09.499-05:002012-09-06T14:59:09.499-05:00Curtis - thanks for the blog. It is a good chronol...Curtis - thanks for the blog. It is a good chronology showing why a safety professional cannot work in a vaccum!! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-38377597947954242152012-09-06T14:17:21.782-05:002012-09-06T14:17:21.782-05:00Very enjoyable, in a perverse sense.
Perhaps the s...Very enjoyable, in a perverse sense.<br />Perhaps the safety profession should heed the hippocratic oath, "First, do no harm".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-56309466053629518862012-09-05T19:06:48.482-05:002012-09-05T19:06:48.482-05:00It troubles me that individuals call themselves ‘s...It troubles me that individuals call themselves ‘safety professionals’ and yet their actions prove otherwise. Having a practical safety approach that is well thought out will, in most cases, lead to a cost effective program that will be successful, rather than one that looks like it was inherited by someone who is lost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-82076584876440251562012-09-05T17:45:08.576-05:002012-09-05T17:45:08.576-05:00Great job! I love to read your posts.
Isabel.Great job! I love to read your posts.<br /><br />Isabel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-37976491363285649512012-09-05T09:46:42.330-05:002012-09-05T09:46:42.330-05:00We assess thousands of incident reports every year...We assess thousands of incident reports every year and see nonsense like this all the time. The law of unintended consequences is very powerful. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940742876873477529.post-81181537786439770732012-09-05T07:34:28.854-05:002012-09-05T07:34:28.854-05:00Another great blog. Thanks Curtis. Another great blog. Thanks Curtis. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com